Another Zionist thief heard from
by Matt Giwer, © 2006 [November 10]

I recently found this article on the Israel Insider website. The original article article is here. I was struck by the fact that an article that is both childlike in its naivete and its "Wir muss Lebensraum gehaben" Nazi tenor. To summarize Israel needs more land than it has.

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The Case for a Larger Israel By David Naggar November 7, 2006

When I was an active litigator, I kept in mind what decent lawyers know: if someone sues your client, it is generally advisable to sue back. With a counter-suit in place, the dynamics of the negotiation changes. Each side may be owed something, and advocates and peacemakers alike must take this into account when proposing a settlement.

As of yet, Israel's advocates have not presented a credible counter-suit against those who demand that Israel withdraw to its pre-1967 borders. No one has effectively put forth a case that Israel, to be a self-sustaining viable State, must have adequate territory, and that a self-sustaining viable Israel not only serves the interests of peace, but also greatly benefits humanity otherwise. A more balanced negotiation, and a more enduring peace between Israel and her neighbors will arise from advancing this case. Only by laying out this argument will Israel's full needs be taken into account when the time comes to set regional borders.

The man has no concept of the geography of the land around Israel. There is nothing any country would negotiate away to Israel. There nothing any country could afford to negotiate away. The only regions that could add to what Israel has are those which make surrounding countries possible.

Today, only Palestinian statelessness and Israel's security needs are discussed. Israel's need to be viable has not been considered by the international community since 1920, when the much larger original borders of what was to become British Mandate Palestine -- a homeland for the Jews -- were agreed upon.

Obviously the Zionists thought the smaller borders were adequate else they would have called off the entire Palestine project.

The international consensus solution, two States -- one Israeli and the other Palestinian within the confines of Israel, Gaza and the West Bank -- is based on fatally flawed assumptions. Even if two such States could be delineated by fiat, doing so would not produce a lasting peace. Neither State would be viable. And with ever advancing technology, and ever more powerful arsenals, it should be clear that failure to achieve true peace may eventually lead to a much wider and more lethal war.

In 1948 a viable two state solution was proposed by the UN General Assembly on condition that both sides agree to it. Of course it was for sovereignty over the land only. It did not proposed to actually transfer ownership of the land. As per Benny Morris and Tom Segev using Israeli records, the Zionists rejected it and attacked the Palestinian partition leading to the Nakbah and all the rest.

Therefore, the assumptions underlying these international proposals must be revisited. The problem must be considered anew. A better approach to a sustainable peace must be found and pursued.

That does not follow. That Jews chose to go to Israel fully aware of the limitations does not require anyone else to do anything. They knew what it would be like when they went there. They knew there would never be peace as long as they were beyond adolescent idealism. You folks chose to live this way. That does not obligate anyone to do anything to make a childish fantasy into a reality.

World leaders must first be educated to the improbability of establishing a successful Palestinian State in the limited space allocated to it. A RAND Corporation study suggests that to have even a chance of success, such a Palestinian State would require $33 billion of aid over 10 years, $50 billion of aid through 2019, and access to Israel's labor market. This approach is fantasy. Pursuing it will endanger the lives of some, and ruin the lives of many.

Zionists pursuit of there objectives has required many times more than that over more years from just the US Government and with no end in sight. I do not see why that is an objection.

World leaders must also be re-educated to the fact that Israel's primary predicament -- its security risk -- is based on the long-standing Arab/Muslim-Israeli conflict, not an Israel-Palestinian one. In other words, the establishment of a tiny Palestinian State by itself won't end Israel's security risk. Iranian and Hezbollah actions are helping to make this point clear. Less appreciated is that the Muslim Brotherhood would come to power in Egypt and Syria if there were fair elections held in those countries today.

So what is this about a security risk? Every Zionist who has gone to Israel has known that unless they were children or born there. If the latter than can curse their parents. That European immigrants and their children live in an insecure land is their fault alone. One might honestly say their stupidity alone.

Finally, world leaders must then be persuaded to give weight to the fact that security is not Israel's only predicament. Israel may have the nuclear weapons capability to blow up many who hate it, but to exist as a healthy nation -- to be a viable State -- Israel's security and well being, including social, political, and economic needs must be unassailable. Viability is hard to precisely define. It is a concept that is best examined holistically because each State has its own unique circumstances.

So how is it that Israel insists upon being a Schnorrer nation and get everything from other countries? Why does not Jewish genius solve these problems? Is it overrated?

But let us go further. From 1938 there is the famous Hossbach memorandum in which Hitler supposedly outlined what Germany required to autonomous in resources. This is said to have guided the objectives of the wars in the east. Is Israel no better than Hitler?

This is the real world where very NO country is self-sufficient in all of its resources. It is a world where needed resources are obtained through trade. Israel's problem is the Zionists wanted a land with no resources to trade. That is what Zionists wanted and that is what they have. It is not up to the world to harm others because Zionists are very stupid people.

In its pre-1967 borders, Israel's long-term viability is suspect because 1) it is not self-reliant, needing to be annually subsidized by American foreign aid and the monetary support of Diaspora Jews, 2) it does not have adequate water or energy resources, needing to import both, 3) the quality of life of its citizens is brutal below the surface, notwithstanding the availability of material goods made possible by a subsidized economy.

So why do Jews go there? They freely choose to go there and then complain about what they chose?

Israelis live in a pressure cooker imposed by its enemies; one that takes an unhealthy emotional toll, 4) it does not have adequate territory to allow for natural population growth, 5) it does not have permeable borders to support economic activity. It faces unfriendly neighbors, and must bypass its neighbors to openly trade, and, 6) it faces borders that cannot be easily secured because it does not have adequate territory to properly defend those borders.

Zionists chose to live in those conditions. It is like people choosing to live on an island and then complaining about it being an island. If you don't like it, leave. No one is forcing you to stay there.

As the only Jewish majority State, it is necessary that Israel be viable in every sense. In the long-term, only an independently viable Israel can peacefully and successfully survive in the Middle East. Moreover, it is in humanity's interest that the Jewish people participate in the organization of civilization as an equal partner. The one Jewish majority State must be large enough to enable it to grow and thrive, not wither and decay. Because Israel exists, Jews around the world can more freely and openly do their part. It is astonishing that a population of less than 0.2% of the world's population has produced 22% of all Nobel laureates. In the fields of philanthropy, the humanities, science, the arts, medicine, internet connectivity, global communications, coming water shortage issues, energy issues, and more, a self sufficient, prosperous, and free Israel benefits humanity.

Here the fool tries to give Israel credit for all Jews. Sorry but Einstein was a Swiss citizen. Identifying people by their religion is old fashioned. Israel on the other hand has been cutting down on every field that promotes education and intellectual accomplishment. So if this is a serious case dispersing Jews to advanced countries from backwater Israel is the way to continued this benefit.

But I see a greater problem with this. All of this genius cannot solve Israel's problems but must get other nations to solve Israel's problems. Other nations much make it easy for Israel.

For the sake of Israelis and Arabs, lasting peace and the betterment of humanity, the failed status quo must change. Israel must exist on a plot of land large enough for it to be self-reliant. Palestinian Arabs must also either have their own plot of land large enough to create a viable State, or they must be afforded the opportunity to achieve full self-determination as citizens of other Arab States.

And here the geography of the region which was freely chosen by the Zionists rears its very ugly head. Even taking all of Lebanon, and western Syria and western Iraq would not satisfy these grandiose requirements. Yet Hong Kong with many times fewer resources a greater population and much less land is an economic powerhouse that Jewish genius cannot seem to match.

Rather than the legal and social reforms to turn Israel into a Hong Kong tens of millions of non-Jews must be displaced so Israel can have what it wants on its Hossbach Memorandum terms. Its terms are a religious marxist state contrary to any possible Hong Kong model.

The problem is those tens of millions will be in addition to all the present day enemies who lawfully attack Israel.


The facts are really quite simple. There is no possible way Israel can expand its borders to include enough resources to survive absent the Hong Kong model. In fact it is not willing to go so far as the Lebanon economic model which Israel has smacked down twice.

If Israel were to get its cut down bible myth of from a minor river, not the Nile, in Egypt to the Euphrates all it would get enough water but nothing more. There are no particular natural resources in that region. So lets give the expanse of land to Israel and expel everyone else. Then the world would have to force all the Jews to go live there to get a maximum of 14 million Jews to sparsely populate the land. This is not enough to defend it so Israel would still be begging other nations to defend and support it.

The Zionist ideology was irrational to begin with. It was never possible as a long term position. It could not have survived this long without outside support. First they tried to get support from Stalin but that fell through for unknown reasons. Then they got France in return for giving a pretext for war with Egypt by attacking Egypt in 1956. Then some idiot US president adopted marxist Israel and the US got the attack on the USS Liberty.

The plea is this article is for more land without natural resources, an expelled native population, a multiplication of enemies and without Jews being expelled from the nations of the world zero chance of significantly increasing its population. It could not even make up for the non-Jewish Israelis it would expel.

The reality of Israel is that for every Jew who emigrates to Israel the average IQ of the Jews in the Diaspora increases. This may explain the reputation of Jews outside of Israel as only the stupid ones go to Israel. No rational Jew would choose to live in the most dangerous place in the world for a Jew to live.

That the truth is taken as an insult by Jewish immigrants to Israel is their problem. Jews outside of Israel are not stupid and are not headed there. Every generation the lowest IQ Jews are culled from the Diaspora and go to Israel.

Is dumb Jew a proper evaluation? For all the reasons in the original article and my response Israel is a dead end for Jews. Without outside support the standard of living in Israel would be no better than that of Lebanon without considering the extra cost of the military it requires to exist sending the standard of living even lower.

With that standard of living it would be hard to attract even Ethiopians to Israel considering the racial discrimination they will face. No Jew from a western country would choose it with 3rd world diseases rampant. Even now with all the free billions the best Israel can do is equal Spain on average as a standard of living. The difference is Spain has several modern cities while Israel has one and a half.

And this is the best Israel can ever hope for. The more Jews who emigrate to Israel the fewer there are to send money. Donors become beggers. If Israel gets all the world's Jews all the donors become beggers but the IQ increase may compensate for it.

The author makes an expectedly lame attempt at claiming the world owes Zionists more than it has to make the Zionist dream cum nightmare come true. At the heart of the article is the assumption that the adherents to the Jewish religion have a right to something that no other religion has.

I have read assertions like this for decades and I have never fathomed the minds that take it as a given. The closest I have seen to it was a Philipine housekeeper who told me she was going to see the movie The Exorcist to study it. The Zionist view is the rankest form of superstition found outside of the third world. But without all the foreign charity Israel is a third world country so this is not a contradiction. I expect people in backwards countries to think this way.

And before I get a recitation of all three less than world class educational institutions in Israel, for what that waste of time might be worth, let me review one part of the political spectrum in Israel. This is the part that cast spells and does incantations and lays on curses and holds seats in its government. No western country has other than the occasional psychotic like that but in Israel they are respected elected members of the government. It is like the US have members of the snake-handlers party.

Politically Israel is barely above some of the more primitive African countries. But we are all supposed to either understand or ignore.

Sorry but we have to do nothing. The west has Gay Pride marches for some odd reason but in Israel the snake-handlers riot to prevent them. I do not remember a single snake-handler riot in the US ever. And in Israel we mean real riots as in senseless violence and attacking the police. And these are the same folks in squatter towns in the West Bank who attack Palestinians while protected from reprisal by Israel's army. Israel loves them and protects them as they are a political force in the country.

If one excludes Israel's snake-handlers we still do not have a pretty picture. The next level up are the Jews who were there before Israel was founded. They were and still are totally opposed to the existence of Israel. The Zionists gave them complete control over conversion, marriage and divorce in return for the silence on their opposition. They enforce it with a vengence.

This is nothing like the influence of fundamentalist groups in the US. If it were divorce would be illegal and only total immersion baptisms permitted and civil marriages would not exist. Civil marriage does not exist in Israel. And the only lawful marriages of Jews are to other Jews and Muslims to other Muslims and Christians to other Christians. There is no lawful inter-religion marriage in Israel. Mixed religion marriages cannot happen in Israel. People have to leave the country to get married. This is Dark Ages stuff to the real world.

So here in fact we have the third world country pretending to be second world country solely because of foreign charity while its population with political power is significantly mired in backwater magic and mojo.

But it wants more foreign charity. The pretense that the world owes Israel something. Which world? The best crying game it has is against Christian Europe but it is not claiming more of Bavaria. It is claiming the land of Muslims who treated Jews much better than Christians for all of its history and never holocausted Jews. Excuse me but all those Nobel laureates must be crypto-Jews because this is the stupidest claim anyone could ever make.

Of course it all goes back to the mythical biblical Israel and the mythical Hebrews and the mythical Promised Land and the mythical expulsion by the Romans and a dozen other myths that play well in theater but not in reality. Even if it were all true who gives a damn? If folks want to cry over it that is their business. There is no claim on others to fulfill their religious fantasies.

If god gave it to them then let god give it back to them. They didn't need any help but god the first time. There is no need for god this time.

But the problem is Zionism is an atheist, nationalist, marxist movment. It has no religious basis whatsoever. As a marxist movement it does not deserve to live and to show it is marxist 92% of the land in Israel is owned by the government. As to atheist, the nation makes a big effort to claim it is Jewish but there is not one assertion to Yahweh any place in the public discourse. There is not even the US obligatory mention of god in political speeches. As to nationalist, it is based upon the premise that Jews could never assimilate into Christian Europe (although they have in the Christian US) and this idea was adopted decades later by the Nazi party. Of course they were natural allies.

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